“Hear this word, you cows of Bashan, who are on the mountain of Samaria, who oppress the poor, who crush the needy, who say to your husbands, ‘Bring, that we may drink!’ (Amos 4:1 ESV)
As most readers of P&P know, there are many, many troubling things regarding Beth Moore. You can find all of our Beth Moore-related posts here. You can also see this excellent Internet-wide list of links regarding problems with Beth Moore here, which we discovered by seeing the pingbacks to our website.
Chris Rosebrough’s epic lecture on Beth Moore and some of her closest associates, entitled MystiChicks, can be listened to here. Our post regarding Beth Moore’s flipping out on a young pastor’s wife for criticizing her teaching received about 1.4k shares on Facebook (which you can find here), a huge improvement compared to the early days of Beth Moore discernment about 8 years ago, which criticizing The Lifeway Muse® would earn you a surprise yard party of pitchforks and torches. Thankfully, as we shared one woman’s story of “Breaking Free of Beth Moore” (also with 1k+ shares), it became growingly apparent that more Christians are starting to figure it out and speak out.
When Paul Holden, who is pastor of a Baptist church in Ontario, received an email with an invitation to the ladies of his church to attend a Beth Moore event in Toronto he promptly and politely esponded with a “No thank you,” and listed his concerns regarding Beth Moore. His concerns are what any reasonable and discerning person would be, chiefly (1) Beth Moore regularly twists Scripture through a narcissistic eisegesis (2) Beth Moore claims direct, divine revelation from God and has made herself very apparently and unapologetically into a prophet and (3) Beth Moore associates, cross-pollenates and promotes the worst of the worst practitioners of Word-Faith, the prosperity gospel and charismania. There are other, lesser problems with Moore, including her almost complete abandonment of Biblical complementarianism and a host of other issues.
Pastor Holden, essentially, explained to Lifeway his problems regarding their best-selling author. Lifeway didn’t receive it…well, let’s just say they didn’t receive it well.
In a scolding, patronizing email that could have had “Defensive Much?” in the subject line, Lifeway wrote…
The leadership at LifeWay stands behind Beth Moore. Many of the
blogs and articles that have been written about Beth recently have
taken her teaching completely out of context. One of LifeWay’s most
important values is providing trustworthy content and we do not take
it lightly.
In the last six months some articles written are in response to
Beth’s friendship with teachers who do not align theologically with
the Baptist Faith and Message and many incorrect assumptions due to
these friendships.
Again LifeWay stands behind Beth Moore because we know her heart to
reach people and teach God’s Word. In over 20 years of ministry together
we have witnessed her integrity firsthand as she follows the Lord’s
leadership. She loves the body of Christ. We only ask that you not make
assumptions based on what you read or where she may go, but more on the
content she shares and her dedication to sound teaching. She asks for
that courtesy, and does a great job of explaining how the Lord has been
working in her life. Blog link http://blog.lproof.org/2014/01/a-new-year-a-new-time.html
We hope you will reconsider and share with the women of your church what
is happening in your area.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
—
Faith Whatley
Director, Adult Ministry
LifeWay Church Resources
The leadership of Lifeway stands behind Beth Moore, says Faith Whatley, director of Adult Ministry at Lifeway. Leadership, no doubt, refers to Thom Rainer (who still hasn’t responded to Alex Malarkey’s open letter) and possibly, Faith Whatley herself. This is Ms. Whatley, in response to Beth Moore and Word-Faith, prosperity gospel Impastor with gay-affirming Hillsong, Christine Caine (click here for information on Christine Caine) …
I’m soooo glad that two lady preachers makes this Southern Baptist employee “smile BIG!” (not really). SBC-affiliated local church pastors, like Pastor Holden, aren’t impressed. What equates to big money for Lifeway equates to big trouble for the local church. It turns out that making a buck and making a disciple are two entirely different things altogether.
It would have been nice if Thom Rainer and Ed Stetzer and Lifeway Leadership would have stood behind a 15 year-old young man with serious disabilities who tried telling them through a surrogate, Justin Peters, that his Heaven Tourism book credited to him was a fraud (to see those emails with your own eyes, click here).
But Rainer and Stetzer did not stand behind the victim of their lust for filthy lucre. They (until this day) have ignored him. It seems that the only thing Lifeway leadership really stands behind is profit motivation.
Many of the blogs and articles that have been written about Beth recently have taken her teaching completely out of context.
Yeah. Just out of context. That’s it.
The fact is, there is simply no possible way that Lifeway could point-by-point refute those dirty scalawag bloggers. People are starting to catch on and do polemics on their own. There are systemic problems with Beth Moore and her teaching.
One of LifeWay’s most important values is providing trustworthy content and we do not take it lightly.
I mean absolutely no disrespect to Ms. Whatley, but I do hope she reads this (oh, she will) and I want her to ponder this…That statement, that one of Lifeway’s most important values is providing trustworthy content and it is not taken lightly might just be one of the most patently untrue, ridiculous, out-right lying things I’ve read in a long, long time.
Ms. Whatley, when Lifeway sells TD Jakes, is it their “trustworthy content” value that’s talking? I mean, for crying out loud madam, you guys can’t even keep it within Trinitarianism. Or the selling of Christian and also Catholic mystics (click here and here), is that your “trustworthy content” value that’s talking? How about selling Torn, the gay Christian propaganda (click here) or how about selling Osteen and Meyer via special order (click here); is that your “trustworthy content” value that’s talking? How about you guys selling Jesus Calling (more direct, divine revelation), Four Blood Moons (astrology), The Shemitah (omen interpretation), and the worst of the worst of charismatic prophecy? It’s not like there’s some occasional heresy at Lifeway, Ms. Whatley. It’s like if you close your eyes and throw a rock in a Lifeway Store, you’ll hit heresy by accident.
To say that this is your highest value is beyond preposterous. It’s beyond absurd. It’s an adjective that hasn’t even been invented yet. In fact, it contradicts Lifeway this June at the SBC meeting in which they said they were going to focus LESS on what they shouldn’t sell (source link).
In the last six months some articles written are in response to Beth’s friendship with teachers who do not align theologically with the Baptist Faith and Message and many incorrect assumptions due to these friendships.
Well, no. It’s not just the “last six months.” The late Ken Silva was writing about this, Chris Rosebrough was writing about this, and I was blogging about this more than eight years ago. It’s just that Ms. Moore has become more and more noticeable in her slide into false teaching. And now, our articles are being shared like crazy because people are beginning to see it for themselves. Furthermore, this has nothing to do with Beth Moore’s friends not being Southern Baptist enough or not holding to the Baptist Faith and Message 2000. It’s about her friends denying the Holy Trinity, teaching works-righteousness, teaching the false prosperity gospel, teaching Word-Faith “little god” heresy and “hearing from God” like he’s a girlfriend texting them on their bedazzled smart phone.
Futhermore, these aren’t mere “friendships.” No one is complaining about who is on Beth Moore’s Christmas card list. She’s partnering with these scoundrels. She’s on their television programs. She’s talking about how much they’ve “breathed into [her] life.” She’s talking about how they’ve influenced her. Surely you can see the difference, Ms. Whatley. Yes?
Again LifeWay stands behind Beth Moore because we know her heart to reach people and teach God’s Word.
Great. Ms. Whatley and Ed Stetzer and Thom Rainer know how much money Beth Moore makes them her “heart to reach people” and twist teach God’s Word. Their estimation of her “heart,” however, is subjective and irrelevant. We know her words. We’ve judged her by her words. You know, those objective little things.
In over 20 years of ministry together we have witnessed her integrity firsthand as she follows the Lord’s leadership.
…which apparently the Lord beams into her every 5.3 minutes via a “Sabbath Moment” where she hears his voice. Again, subjective, devoid of facts, and emotional reasoning with no attempt to counter facts presented by those dirty bloggers.
She loves the body of Christ.
Well, then maybe she should stop teaching men, tell her female followers to go learn from their pastors and husbands, rebuke the false teachers around her instead of setting up changing tables with them down at the proverbial temple marketplace, stop twisting the scripture, and stop presuming the effeminate, silly voice in her head is “God.”
We hope you will reconsider and share with the women of your church what is happening in your area.
No. No, Ms. Whatley. Go sell your pigeons and change your money somewhere else. Local pastors are getting tired of poison being peddled – in Jesus’ name, no less – by Lifeway. Frankly, the only thing different than a crack dealer on the street corner and the “Adult Ministry Division” at Lifeway is that the crack dealer only sells poison that can kill the body, and not the
soul.
Frankly, there is a growing number of discerning pastors that just aren’t going to take it anymore.
[Contributed by JD Hall]
